And i'm guessing you didn't catch the point of my post. The second step (the one with hamachi) it's sure easy to do. But the first one is obviously easier. That is the point. They are both easy, but people prefer the easier one. Understand? Need a drawing? Jeez.. Yeah, people magically know imediately where to type the ID and how to use Hamachi... Dedicated servers were, are and will always be better than Hamachi ones, deal with it. No matter how many things you would say, i'm not getting an error, and it works perfectly. Well, if you are trying to connect to Hamachi servers without Hamachi... then that's maybe why you get the error.... derp.